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miércoles, 14 de diciembre de 2011

Discussing Double Imputation with R.C. Sproul


Para los que les gusta escuchar buena Palabra en ingles les traigo aca este excelente video del Dr. R. C. Sproul, el cual nos explica brevemente la doctrina de la imputacion de la justicia de Cristo en forma de intercambio con el pecado nuestro que el voluntntariamente llevo sobre si.

Aqui abajo esta la transcripcion.  



Now the question is :
On what possible grounds could God ever say to you: You are Just!
When in fact!  You are not just.

Again,
How can an unjust person be justified?
When we look on imputation,
The concept of imputation
 is found frequently in the new testament with the image with like the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world
How does he take away the sin?
How does the lamb do in the Old Testament?

What’s the symbolism?
The priest puts his hands on the lamb, why?
he is transferring symbolically the sins of the people to the animal that is to be sacrificed 
or to do escape goat whose is to go out into the wilderness and we'll look at that again later on.

Jesus is said to bear our sins, he takes upon himself the sins of the world
The language there is a language of a quantitative act of transfer
Where the weight of guilt that belongs here is taken from this man and given to somebody else

So what happens is:
That God in Christ, Christ willingly takes upon himself all of this
So that before God once the sin has been imputed to him (and again we'll talk more  about what this means, when we examine the curse motive in the new testament  ) 


But now in the sight of God, God works at Christ in what does he see?

Justice? He sees a mass of sinfulness
Because the sin of now has been transferred to Jesus
(This is elementary I don't a be insulting your diligence but this is, we gotta get this.. Into our bloodstream)
The sin is transferred or imputed to Jesus!

Now, if that happened and that's all that happened!
 The single transfer the one dimensional transaction you would never be justified!

If Jesus took all of my sins that I've ever committed on his back and took the punishment for me that would not keep me into the kingdom of God 
All that would do would be keep me out of hell!

I would still not be just I would be innocent if you will but still not just in a positive sense 

I have no righteousness of which to speak..
And remember it’s not simply the innocence that gets me into the kingdom of God..
It's righteousness’.. Unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees you will never get in to the kingdom of God
And so we can talk about maybe I'm not guilty of anything but I haven't done anything, I haven't merited anything that were by justice would give a reward.


So the point is that there is a double transfer
Not only is the sin of man imputed to Christ
But what happens to the righteousness of Christ?

The sin is transferred to Jesus the righteousness of Christ is transferred to us
 to our account 
So that in God sight… this circle is now clean
So that God when he declares me just! He is not lying 

Well what's the trouble with this? 

…. Call this
Calls this  concept 
The present concept a legal fiction 
I mean recoil from not because the sense that in the protestant view of imputation
That somehow this concept cast a shadow on the integrity of God because God is now declaring people just who are not Just!

The responses reformers was :
If the imputation were fictional then when God declared us just it would be a legal fiction it would be a lie and that would be a blemish in the character of God..

But the point of the gospel is that 
The imputation is real!!, that God really laid my sins on Christ and not only that God really transferred the righteousness of Christ to me
 And there is a real union for those who are in Christ